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seawasp ([personal profile] seawasp) wrote2011-03-29 03:47 pm

Hayakawa's neat...





I haven't yet seen or heard anything on GCA yet (why should I, it's only been a month or two since the deal was done, and I'd figure the translation alone will take several months), but while trying to figure my way around a site in a language I can't read, I DID come across Sarah Hoyt's Darkship Thieves/Dark Ship entry, and the cover certainly looks kickass.

ETA: The link I used got changed, so I found a hard-link to the actual cover JPG.

So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both an excellent translation and a buttkicking cover. I love the original cover for GCA, make no mistake, but I look forward to seeing what the Japanese decide to do for it; I'm hoping for an anime-manga style translation of the imagery, sort of the way Weber's Honor Harrington novels ended up (here's the one for Honor Among Enemies).

[identity profile] shanejayell.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Never mind, found a link.

http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Onbasilikstation1.jpg
My only complaint is that it's almost TOO cute. *lol*

The back cover is also badass,
http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Onbasilikstation1-.jpg
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[identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahem: Hayakawa are slow. I think there's a lag of 2-3 years between them acquiring the rights to my books and actually translating and publishing them.

(It's worth the wait, but don't expect to see any action this year.)

One thing you should do is to politely prod your agent or whoever sold the Japanese rights and emphasize that you'd be delighted to assist the honourable translator with any issues of local idiom or vernacular they may encounter. (Because they may be too embarrassed to implicitly admit their own inadequacy by approaching you uninvited if they have a query ...)

[identity profile] shanejayell.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! My only real complaint would be how Nimitz has been turned into a anime mascot... *lol* Tho admittedly I think he'd be amused by it.

[identity profile] goodluckfox.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Nimitz doesn't look anywhere NEAR badass enough in that image. :)
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Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-29 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone always gets treecats wrong. They don't look like cats. They look more like mustelids. I wouldn't mind if it was a cute anime ferret/otter/weasel beast. Mmm, some of the earlier covers of the text books tried but that seems to have faded.
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, my brain's just wired that way, I pay close attention to descriptions of creatures, because that's what I draw, and I just hate it when it seems like the cover artist hasn't read the guidelines. Even if I don't intend drawing the creature.

Calling something a treecat will naturally predispose people to think cat shaped, but that's how we tend to name stuff, to try and make it familiar and understandable. I think mini-bintarong or treefisher or arboreal weaselbadger just doesn't have the same ring somehow. :-)

First paragraph...http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Treecat

I will have to re-read the series (oh what a hardship) but I seem to recall that the ears are rounded.

This head bearing a striking resemblance to a Terran cat doesn't really wash with me, though. Sea Lions' head bear striking resemblance to labrador dogs, and lamas, of all things, are remarkably similar head wise to kangaroos!

[identity profile] shanejayell.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
God knows the Treecats have nearly weaponized cute. :) THey deliberately make people think they're harmless... right up until you threaten their person.

Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] arcadiagt5.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'd really like to see your take on a treecat. I do love a lot of your other wildlife drawings.

Speaking of which, did I ever mention just how good your brown falcon drawing looks on a black t-shirt?

[identity profile] arcadiagt5.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
"weaponized cute" is a fabulous line! :)
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the compliment! I might do a drawing of a treecat. What I would primarily need, however, is to extract all the descriptions from the books. So if you're planning to do a re-read, send me the page numbers and volume and I'll give it a go.

Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] arcadiagt5.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm suddenly tempted to do a search for "treecat" through the ebook versions...
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Too many hits I'm thinking. I'm interested in their ears...try a search for mustelids instead.

no picture of darkship thieves

[identity profile] wswears.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I followed the link to look at the Japanese cover of Darkship, and the little block on that book was text only. Is there someplace else on the site to find that cover?
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Once I have the descriptions ready I'll do some preliminary works on treecats, and, I guess, what, post them in my LJ & DW? In the fullness of time. I am unable to go hunting up descriptions as I'm involved in a major work at the moment (which unfortunately I find, is appearing to be too big and detailed to make this year's Swancon artshow) but if descriptions just fall in my lap I can do some roughs which will act as therapy as light relief from the (.357 )Magnum Opus.

Likewise for the Magon and Maelkodan, if you've got descriptions handy I can give them a shot. I'm running short on reading material though, so I might read your books over breakfast and take some notes.
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
No wonder no-one's tried. Thanks for the descriptions. I definitely will have to give it a go.

Now, we don't want to risk eye contact with the Maelkodan, but maybe there's photos of them - any more detail on the head?

The Magon...

So...double trumpet, is that a trumpet within a trumpet, or two trumpets next to each other or back to back?

I'm sort of envisioning a cornucoepia inside a cornucoepia here but I could be completely off base. Where does the mouth of the trumpet face?

Is that head armed with grasping talons?

You know...that's a *pretty darn good* last-ditch defense.

Re: no picture of darkship thieves

[identity profile] wswears.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
That is cool. I like it more than I like the US one, and I'm generally in favor of naked women on book-covers. There may be something wrong with me. :-(

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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Maelkodan...do they have tails? If so, what are they like? Tipped with anything? Crested? Barbed?
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Does the Maelkodan have ventral scales? Are they any particular colour?

Stocky or slender build?

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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Good, this extra information is useful, and some guesses I made were right.

I'll complete the drawing of the Maelkodan and post it sometime today.

Just bear in mind it's essentially only a sketch! With some colour. I generally bleed from the ears if I show stuff that's 'not finished' or in progress, but I feel sad that no one's drawn your delightful creatures, so I don't mind.
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Re: Why do *none* of these artists read the description of treecats?

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Deep breaths, now there, Ryk, calm....
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Okay, ready when you are

[identity profile] leecetheartist.livejournal.com 2011-04-01 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Posted! Hope you like it!