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seawasp ([personal profile] seawasp) wrote2010-09-05 09:46 am

MORE DoomyDoomDOoom with DOOooOOoom Sauce for HUGO!

Y'know, the Gloomy SF Is Better movement is now *FORTY YEARS OLD*. The original New Wavers are dead or reaching the end of their careers. Don't you think it's time to GIVE IT AN F'ING REST? I mean, really, picking WATERS OF MARS ,of ALL the Doctor Who you could have chosen?

Yes, I know. I'm USED to awards being given to the stuff that's worst, but it does get a bit WEARING after a while. Hell, it's not like the Grand Finale this year was all sweetness and light; it was pretty grim. But it didn't involve grade-A choice stupidity AS WELL as doomy doom dooOoooOooom.

(I can't judge most of the others, not having read 'em. But I know what Charles Stross writes, and I find it likely that there's a lot of doominess in it.)
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[identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually? "Palimpsest" is kind of optimistic about the long term picture once you work through it ...

[identity profile] murstein.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole country is on a "We're doomed! Doomed, I say!" kick. It would be surprising if a little didn't spill over into fandom.

[identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of which, I recently read Grand Central Arena in the paperback and loved it. Your version of Marc DuQuesne (2.0), striving to be a hero against the fictional heritage of villainy imposed on him both by the Hyperion project and (inadvertently) by his original creator was a truly inspiring character, and I loved the rest of the crew too. Plus, you've come up with a truly awesome concept in the Arena itself. Keep on writing in that universe!

[identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
His "A Colder War" had the human world on Earth end due to the weaponization (or so the Great Powers thought, it was more just like the release) of the Great Old Ones, and he missed the obvious silver lining ...

... the survivors of the human race had learned to use the Gate systems of the Elder Things to travel to other star systems, so humanity was now an interstellar civilization. That had to go implied, else the ending might have actually been an optimistic one!

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2010-09-05 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The Dramatic Short Form list was dominated by downers. I think "Waters" won because it was well-written, and explored the idea that some events cannot be changed, even if the Doctor tries to change it, history will have it's way.

Next year, I want to see this video nominated for the Short Form Hugo. With almost no dialogue, The Faking Hoaxer produces one of the most chilling short films I've ever seen.
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[identity profile] meril.livejournal.com 2010-09-06 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
The Mieville isn't doomy, but it's also his least genre-specific work (or at least in the English-language sff genre; it, in a Borgesian way, has its ancestors in Central European crime fiction and literary fantasy.)

[identity profile] gary-jordan.livejournal.com 2010-09-06 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just guessing that you aren't the biggest fan ever of the Chronicles of Covenant the Unbeliever, for example. DoomyDoomDOoom with DOOooOOoom Sauce.
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[personal profile] kjn 2010-09-06 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
- We have the spaceships, aliens, and doom; the robots, computers, and doom; the interstellar mysteries and doom; doom, robots, aliens and doom; doom…

- Have you got anything without any doom in it?

- Well, doom, computers, aliens and doom, it doesn't have too much doom in it.

[identity profile] nuranar.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sneaking in very late here. I always feel like I'm the short kid on the outside of a bunch of older kids, hopping around and trying to see the full picture of what's so exciting. :) But at least I do learn things, namely that this New Wave is the reason I don't like much written past 1950!