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John Scalzi has written a diatribe on fans that get snippy with authors for not producing what they want. This is specifically in context of George RR Martin not yet having his latest sequel on the shelves.

Now, in fairness to the fans, GRRM is partially to blame for the whinging since HE was the one who announced a schedule which he hasn't kept. If you make promises and don't keep them, people WILL whine.

However, the greater point does hold. There are a large number of fans out there (though, one hopes, vastly smaller than the overall group of fans of a given work -- i.e., maybe a few percent of the fans are in this category) who often sound like they hold to the belief that the author exists as a generator of THEIR entertainment (as Scalzi puts it, the authors are "black boxes" of entertainment), and however fast that generator is, he or she isn't fast enough unless there's a new book to hand immediately after the reader's finished the last one.

Of course, the fact is that the author doesn't owe the fans a damn thing except, if the author chooses to pop his head up in public, basic politeness -- which can be exceeded by a "fan" who seems to believe in some form of entitlement.

Some authors do write, in part, specifically for the fans -- not necessarily "to fan specs" but they're writing because they are trying to please some audience, or because they sincerely don't feel that a story is complete if it is not being read. Others do not.

In my case, I'm very happy that people read my books, and happy to discuss them, and so on. But I'm not writing for the readers. I'm writing for me. Fortunately, I can be happy writing a fairly wide variety of things, so if the fans, or an editor, or an agent or co-author, says "hey, instead of something like THAT could you do something like THIS?", often I can find something fun to write that fits the bill. But I can't, and won't, write "for someone else", and if I *did* encounter "entitlement" fans (which so far I fortunately have not personally, though I've seen them for other authors) they'd be likely to make me reactionary and unwilling to write what they wanted. :)

Date: 2009-02-24 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shana.livejournal.com
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Hey, if I thought it would work, I'd whinge at you for more. More books. More game updates. More world info.

But I am sensible enough to know that annoying the provider of goodies will lead to fewer goodies.

Date: 2009-02-24 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nycshelly.livejournal.com
It's not just books. TV fans are notorious for that. I happen to believe that readers and viewers are entitled to their interpretations, etc, but that doesn't mean dictating to the creators of a work. The worst I saw was when a new station commander took over on Babylon 5. Some fans I knew took that way too personally, to the point of writing in nasty letters. My response was, if you don't like the changes, don't watch.

I do get annoyed when I have to wait too long for a sequel, but I don't complain much. The real danger in my case, for the author, is that I'll lose interest by the time the sequel is published.

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Edited Date: 2009-02-24 12:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-24 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-blue-fenix.livejournal.com
Of course, the fact is that the author doesn't owe the fans a damn thing except, if the author chooses to pop his head up in public, basic politeness -- which can be exceeded by a "fan" who seems to believe in some form of entitlement.


The fans, equally of course, don't owe it to the author to buy (or talk up) his next book either. But they should do it politely.

Authors who disappear

Date: 2009-02-24 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xeleison.livejournal.com
I agree with the post. Where I think fans are slightly more justified is when an author appears, does a couple books to start a series, and then disappears with no information from the publisher or the author about what's happening.

I'm specifically thinking of Lorna Freeman, whose "Borderland" books I very much enjoyed. Unfortunately, the predicted third one never materialized.

Entitlement fans and reverse psychology

Date: 2009-02-24 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-g.livejournal.com
So, what if I demanded that you write more sequels to all your non-Jason Wood books? Would that make you reactionary and only willing to write Jason Wood stuff?

Just checking.

Date: 2009-02-25 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosencrantz23.livejournal.com
back when he was writing his webcomics criticism blog at full steam, [livejournal.com profile] demiurgent had some very pointed things to say about entitlement and fandoms: http://www.websnark.com/archives/2004/10/entitlement_and.html
Highly recommended reading, in my humble unbiased opinion.

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