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As Matt Kerman demonstrates in this post, it can be done. You have to be ready to spend the time and make sure you're firm and unfailingly polite. But you can do it.

I would recommend anyone who has the time do this. If enough people do, they'll have to back off. Look at all the manpower they were forced to expend on something that ultimately didn't matter.



Date: 2010-11-24 06:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elainegrey.livejournal.com
I note, though, that this was only possible because he was not catching another flight. This was a post flight screen to allow him to pass into the secure airport area, and he did not go into that secure space.

It seems that the customs area at this airport could remain "secure" and have an exit to the street for people arriving who have no need to catch another flight.

The main thing this seems to refute is the fine levied against the guy who chose not to fly if he had to submit to the search.

Still, YAY.

Date: 2010-11-24 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorek.livejournal.com
and that the TSA supervisor didn't have the authority or will to simply say..."we'd hold you in the airport detention area, or simply arrest you."

Also it helped for him to have *everything* recorded. And of course once again, to not have to be anywhere or even not to have to take a later flight. If he was entering the airport they probably would have just refused him entry.

Reminds me of that movie about the guy who lived in the airport because his country didn't exist anymore as a political entity.

Date: 2010-11-24 09:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
I still say that as long as theft of or from baggage is happening, that's *conclusive* evidence that the airport is not secure.

Because anybody who can steal something from your baggage, much less steal the whole bag, could just as easily *add* something.

Date: 2010-11-24 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninjarat.livejournal.com
Here are some tidbits that the TSA is keeping under the covers as much as it can (and not succeeding too well).

First, the company that is selling these scanners, Rapiscan Systems, is a client of Michael Chertoff's consulting company. Yes, *that* Michael Chertoff who drafted the USA PATRIOT Act, followed Tom Ridge as the head of Homeland Security (of which the TSA is a part). That Michael Chertoff. This alone screams "conflict of interest".

Second, the proposed biometric ID cards that let one skip past the scanners? Sold by Rapiscan Systems. Yes, that Rapiscan Systems that is a client of MIchael Chertoff. It's not just conflict of interest, it's a scam.

And now there's talk about doing the same thing to trains (Amtrak) and rapid transit.

From merriam-webster.com:
"a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
"a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
I leave it to the reader to identify the word defined.

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